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the fiscal cliff in the next two days? have you that $16 trillion staring us in the face? >> eric, let's look for a silver lining in this fiscal cliff discussion. i think what we are hearing from the american public, loud and clear is that they don't want to pay any more taxes. they don't want to pay for the government they are getting that. leaves two choices. number 1, we continue to borrow money or reduce spending. we won't have the option to borrow forever. so we have to reduce spending. if the american people will get as fired up about reducing spending, we might have a chance to fix that. clearly, that message hasn't gotten through to the white house and to the senate. it is heard loud and clear in the house, but we control just the house. >> eric: how do you get that message across and the american people say, instead of dealing with the tacks going up -- trying to deal with the other side of this issue? >> we continue to have the debate. that's what this is about. that's why we are on television and why we do what we do in the house, to try to draw attention to the fact that we have a
they do something or not the next day after the fiscal cliff there is going to be a bill in congress to lower tax rates after all the tax rates expire below $250,000. maybe at this point it looks like the big win that the republicans might get, if you want to call it that, is extending that slightly upwards to $400,000 or $500,000. this is bare bones deal. we're not solving our fiscal approximate and not discussing it. this is going to be fought another day, perhaps in a month with the debt ceiling. >> gregg: "wall street journal" probably had in an op-ed today the best line of the week. we'll put it up on the screen. the fiscal cliff melodrama is bad cabling reality show, real housewives of new jersey without the seven siartd without though not without the plastic surgery. they are phony and the "wall street journal" is basically arguing here the politicians are just like them. they are actors, pretending to do something meaningful about crisis of their own creation and none of them seems terribly sincere about doing something fundamental in $16.4 trillion. fair point? >> but the re
the fiscal cliff. with only three days to go, our next guest says it's not falling over the cliff we should be worried about, it's how much the landing is going to hurt. brian mcginnis is the head of the campaign to fix the debt, president of the committee for responsible budget and joins us this morning from washington. maya, good morning. what do you mean by that? what are you trying to say when you talk about the landing hurting the most? >> well, the point is that the fiscal cliff is a deadline and it's an important deadline that's there to help us focus on getting a big debt deal. the sad state of play is that it appears they're not going to be successful in that. they're not going to be able to replace the cliff with a big, comprehensive debt deal that's big enough to help fix the fiscal challenges of the country. but what's even additionally troubling now is that we may actually go over the cliff. and the fact that we are going to, because of partisan fighting, and an unwillingness to tackle these challenges, do something that is really going to harm the economy and harm all of us. i
government. host: can you take us through the next 48 hours on this debate on the fiscal cliff? what needs to happen? caller: ok. i say, the president should be willing to come up to $300,000, as far as tax increases. we need revenue. $400,000, some people make that. we need revenue. the only way to get it is to get it from people who actually have the money. there is no shame in helping our government. this is our government. the republicans need to understand that social security and medicare -- listen, those are so important. people are talking about i do not want children paying the bill. they will need social security as well. i want republicans to realize that they were elected to do the will of the people. not just the three% or whatever. they all need to understand that we are all affected by their thinking -- the president won the election, right? host: thank you for the call. i want to take you through some of the effects, if we do go off the fiscal cliff, if congress takes no action. this is the chart from the new york times of what will happen immediately and in the next couple
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next with the deadline, january 1. we will begin with your comments on the fiscal cliff talks, now down to the wire. here are our phone numbers -- you can join the conversation online. host: here are some of the friday morning headlines. a rare back to work for congress. "cliff talks down to the wi re" is the headline in "the wall street journal." host: that story from inside "usa today." this is from "the new york times." host: there is this from "roll call." pessimistic asstima ever. the president summoning congressional leaders. we expect there will be a stakeout afterward. we may hear from the president and we will be following all of that as the day unfolds. it's begin with david lightman. he covers capitol hill and the white house. the best sense of what you think the dynamics will be inside the room at the 3:00 p.m. meeting. guest: for all this talk of pessimism and optimism, the only people that know are the five principles in that room and i think that is important. they are all seasoned negotiators. they went to the debt ceiling stuff a year and a half ago. i think there will
this deal may not happen next. obviously a lot of attention tonight on the fiscal cliff. we're inside 30 hours until the expiration date on tax cuts. there are other important bits of business on capitol hill before the end of the year. in other words, in the next 30 hours or so. on friday, the senate approved a more than $60 billion bill to pay for construction costs for superstorm sandy. you see the video of that here. the house still needs to vote on that legislation. it isn't clear yet what the house is going to do. molly henneberg is live in d.c. there's a holdup in the house. what is it? >> the price tag. house republicans say it's too steep. a south carolina republican congressman said he and others want to help the people hurt by sandy but lawmakers need to figure out where the money's going to come from. >> it's not paid for. i know that's a difficult conversation to have but it's a necessary conversation. if we can't come together and figure out a way to stop spending someplace else to pay for this disaster, do we hope to be able to balance our budget and fix our spending diffi
're optimistic they can reach a deal on the fiscal cliff. next we'll take a look at the possible effects and perhaps to fight hunger in the -- programs to fight hunger in the u.s. >> today, we want to look at the issue of hunger in america. we want to welcome our two guests. caroline rye cliff and alicia coleman jackson dealing with food and hunger. i want to ask you as you look through some of these figures what surprised you the most? what did you learn? guest: well, thanks for having me. just to talk about some of our main findings our statistics are based on food calendar year 2011 and that's base tond food survey conducted in 2011. we found that about 14.9% households were food insecure. food insecure means they lack consistent food. food insecurity rate in the u.s. is around 14% to 15% since 2008. from 2007 to 2008 food insecurity increased with the resession. it was at 11% prior to the recession. >> let me go to this sub head linebacker here. the 15% of these households being food insecure means they have trouble putting adequate food on the table. the question is why? why do we h
cliff. we'll see what happens over the next few hours. tom foreman, thank you. much more on the fiscal cliff coming up. >>> there are serious ramifications for almost every american involved in this negotiati negotiation. we'll update when when we come back. ♪ [ male announcer ] this is karen and jeremiah. they don't know it yet, but they're gonna fall in love, get married, have a couple of kids, [ children laughing ] move to the country, and live a long, happy life together where they almost never fight about money. [ dog barks ] because right after they get married, they'll find some retirement people who are paid on salary, not commission. they'll get straightforward guidance and be able to focus on other things, like each other, which isn't rocket science. it's just common sense. from td ameritrade. >>> okay, we've got the breaking news we're following here in washington. we've been thinking about it. we've been talking about it for a long time. guess what, the united states is now going over the so-called fiscal cliff. that's because the house of representatives is adjourning as
or not the nation will go over the fiscal cliff in the next few days. this won't end the discussion, but it should launch us into the next steps. can they hash out the basic form of an agreement, a scaled down agreement. if they reach that threshold, can the senators assure each other that they have the time to get this done and no senator will filibuster it? if that's the case, they bring it to a vote tomorrow, and/or sunday and does the house agree to bring it to a vote on the floor of the house. those are a lot of ifs and we have until just monday night to get it all done. >> you'll be standing by, watching it all with every single detail. thank you, jessica yellin. now to lisa desjardins, live on capitol hill for us. so, lisa, just caught you talking with senator ben nelson of nebraska. here's what he said. >> if we don't have a deal within the next 24 hours, the question is where do you buy a parachute? looks like we'll be going over the cliff. because the closer we get to the end, the less likely it is you're going to be able to compress an agreement into place that will have enough votes to
tax bills rise next year by $2,000. the fiscal cliff isn't the only thing rattling the economy. in just a few weeks lawmakers will begin battling over the debt ceiling. you may recall that in the summer of 2011 the debt limit standoff led to the first ever downgrade of the nation's credit rating. joining us now from capitol hill is cnbc's aman jabbers. appreciate you helping us make sense of all of this. >> happy new year. thank you for having me. >> on a less happy note, there are economists who are saying this whole fight over the fiscal cliff, the rangeling in washington has already caused a hit on the economy. can you explain sort of what the impact of the debate has been. >> you dw definitely seen it. ju as early as friday when we report that the president was not making his new offer with offers down at the white house. we saw the stock market sell off rather dramatically just in those couple of minutes as that news was coming out. i got to say that over the past 24 hours or so the stock market has been relatively calm sort of expecting a deal, expecting that lawmakers wi
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for some direction after fiscal cliff negotiations stall. we get the word from the nyse floor, next on what you should be watching in today's session. later on, the anti-tax man himself is here to tell us about how he feels about the latest developments in the fiscal cliff negotiations. what a wild ride here we've seen all morning long. right now the dow up about 25. >>> welcome back to "squawk on the street." i'm john harwood in washington. i want to bring you up to date on the latest of the talks between vice president biden and mitch mcconnell. there's some concern among democrats who have heard that the income threshold for tax rate increases may be going up to 400, 450, $500,000. a source familiar with the talks just phoned me to say the democrats are only considering that under a couple of conditions. one is that if the threshold goes up to that level, the top income tax rate would go all the way back up to the clinton era rate of 39.6%. not some mid point of 37% talked about a couple of weeks ago. secondly, that it would be accompanied by more revenue from the estate tax than is happ
-- whatever's going to happen with the fiscal cliff, you know in the next three or four years, we will have five or six more showdowns. so that will beleaguer the president. he needs to do break-out things in foreign affair, improving relations between the united states and china. trading relationships that are more favorable to the u.s. he may raise the specter of climate issue. it is not a good one when you are running for office. but it may look good in history, 50 years from now. trying to, you know, post sandy, how do you get your hand on working on this problem in a global way? i think you will see him use executive orders more and more. i doubt you will get the outstanding legislative second-term agend a. there is too much gridlock. he wants to get obamacare if place. he cannot afford in history to have that thwarted, his signature domestic achievement. >> shannon: we can't read their minds, how much does the legacy impact the presidents in their second term? >> gigantic. they all read presidential biographies, that's a hobby. they start to imagine how people are going to look at the
and that being the so called fiscal cliff but the other side of that cliff is that the massive spending cuts automatic cuts are kicking in at the beginning of next year. largely targeted at the pentagon. and what is interesting is all of this deal making we are talking about on capitol hill would really just focus on unemployment benefits and tax side of the cliff as i mentioned and most of deals it appears would not shut off the so called sequester that would hit the pentagon. on "fox news sunday" senator lindsey graham told chris wallace he got a call from the defense secretary suggesting these cuts are coming. lake a listen. >> i was called by leon panetta at 7:30 during dinner. >> secretary of defense. >> this is the failure of the supercommittee to find $1.2 trillion in cuts. half of the 1.2 falls on defense who already cut. he says if we do this we will shoot the defense department in the head and send out 800,000 layoff notices the beginning of the year. he is worried to death if we don't fix sequestration we will destroy the biggest military in the world at the time we need it most.
, a discussion on nasa's budget and mission. >> next, we will continue looking at the fiscal cliff negotiations and how americans would be affected if congress and the white house don't reach a deal. our guest is joseph rosenberg with the tax policy center, followed by a discussion on
look at next week and the fiscal cliff presumably happening, going over it, john boehner is supposed to be re-elected speaker on next thursday. >> on the 3rd, yeah. >> is that going to change everything and he's going to say, to hell with this right-wing tail wagging my dog, i don't need you guys anymore? >> no, because the house isn't the only theater of this. there's the senate, of course. we talked briefly about this earlier, but mitch mcconnell has a senate election in 2014. and if there's been one thing that's been noted over the past year, it's these crazy senate challengers have the chance of knocking off a person in the primary. and i'm assuming that mitch mcconnell knows that. >> this is great. this is great. we love this. tension at the convention of both ends of pennsylvania avenue, the white house, congress. this is terrific stuff. kurt, stay with us, okay? can you. we're begging you, begging you. >> you're adding gravitas to this. >>> we'll also bring in nbc news political director, chuck todd, also nbc white house correspo corresponde correspondent. >>> first, dylan dre
'm harris faulkner in tonight for shepard smith. the impending fiscal cliff that stands to affect the first pay check you get next month unless, of course, lawmakers can find a solution. today the senate majority leader mitch mcconnell said there is still time to work out a deal. however, there is no firm evidence of any real plan. here is what we do know tonight. president obama cutting his vacation short arriving back in washington today. house lawmakers announcing late today they are now planning to return on sunday. but listen to the rhetoric. and you have to question whether that will do any good because near early everything that is coming out of d.c. is about blame. not answers. >> speaker boehner should call members of the house back to washington today. he shouldn't have let them go in fact. they are not here. they are not here. john boehner seems to care more about keeping his speakership than about keeping the nation on firm financial footing. >> harris: a spokesman for john boehner fired back "senator reid should talk less and legislate more." and senate minority leader mcconnel
for christmas. first, i want to ask you about the fiscal cliff and what's happening in the next couple of days. first, do you think it's possible we'll get anything other than a band-aid between now and six days from now when the triggers kick in? >> i'm very optimistic if all of us pull our weight and do some serious conversations we'll have a bipartisan solution, because nobody wants to go over this fiscal cliff. it will damage our economy. it will hurt every taxpayer, the largest tax increase in history. it will affect everybody, and anyone who is watching who thinks, oh this isn't going to impact me, you will fin out d o will, and we know the problem is a lot of spending. not that we're not taxing people more, we're just spending too much. we hope that the president understands that as for as republicans are concerned, we're willing to negotiate and have a civil conversation, but also he's got to bring in some spending cuts and tax reform, because americans want tax reform and we don't want to hurt the economy, and, look there, are not enough millionaires in the united states to tax them a
of oscillation on the back of, as you said, the fiscal cliff and concerns that we may fall off. does that mean that people are getting complacent? they think even though we might not get a deal in the next 24 hours, we will get a deal fairly imminently. in the meantime, though, this is what we've got in terms of the major european indices. that will open and the germans will come to that in a few minutes' time it has been up year-to-date around about 6% and that makes the ftse 100 a real lagger compared with some of its european peers. a laggard, as well, compared to the cac 40. we have no fiscal cliff deal as of yet and it is up 1%. that means the cac 40, the french equity market, the blue chips there are up over 15% year-to-date. and a lot of markets are being shut today, including the dax, it pales to insignificant compared to this. the dax when it closed on friday closed out a 29% increase year-to-date. a stunning performance from those german blue chips, especially when you consider the fact that we are in and out of recession in europe, we have a real malaise in front of a lot of sectors
to be talking over the next 24 hours to try to fix this fiscal cliff thing. here's what they had to say. >> we had a long meeting in the white house it was very constructive. i hope that the next 24 hours will be very instructive with what we're able to accomplish. >> was there discussion of a concrete proposal? >> we talked about a lot of things. there's no concrete proposal at this time. we have a number of different directions that we're goi to try to take and we're going to see what can be worked out. >> we are engaged in discussions, the majority leader and myself and the white house in the hopes that we can come forward as early as sunday and have a recommendation that i can make to my conference and the majority leader can make to his conference so we'll be working hard to see if we can get there in the next 24 hours. so i'm hopeful and optimistic. >> wow. hopeful and optimistic. that sounds pretty good. i have our chief white house correspondent jessica yellin and radio hill correspondent lisa. honestly, they are not calling each other names which yesterday was going on and optimistic
minute talks to avoid the fiscal cliff. barbara boxer is talking right there on the senate floor of the house and senate both in rare new year's eve sessions today ahead of the deadline that triggers across the board tax hikes with dramatic cuts in military and domestic spending. joining us now bob cusack the manage evening editor of the hill the. great to have you here today. >> great to be here. >> many americans are frustrated that congress has taken us to the brink once again with little or no progress. what are you hearing at this moment? is there progress at this time? >> well, we are hearing that there has been progress between vice president biden and senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. still we are nearly 12 hours from the cliff. we don't have a bill. there has actually been a stunning lack of urgency on cant toll hill. on the default showdown, the government shut down there was more urgency. here there just isn't that urgency, maybe because the markets haven't been the roller coaster we thought they would be. eventually people will see less money in their paychecks
as president. host: if what happens next? caller: what happens next as we go over the fiscal cliff, social security and everything is going to be cut. they are going to raise and put more people on welfare, food stamps because the country is not going to have jobs come back, no way. the taxes are too high. there try to tax the people too much. they keep saying the rich paying their fair share, the bridge for the only people who pay taxes. the sec, they pay state taxes and this tax, they sure do. but they get a refund of their income tax credits to pay the taxes. they do not pay any taxes. host: here is a tweet from thomas hnderson. matt coleman writes-- if you look at the money section of "usa today," you will find a piece that says -- we have baytown, texas with a democratic caller. what is your level of optimism these days? caller: imc in that -- it makes me doubt about going over the cliff. i was wondering why the congress does not want to work with the president to pass this thing? host: what are your thoughts? caller: i believe they're going to make a deal. i have been watching the ne
to be on popularity over the next few weeks if we go over the fiscal cliff and he ends up making cuts and so forth. what is going to happen is ultimately if this is is a success or a failure, it's his legacy that's going to tell the story that doesn't come down for republican's back against the walls this mess that krauthammer pointed out. what the republicans are doing mess in the house putting up this plan b and may get less than plan b they couldn't get a vote on plan b. senator corker thinks this whole thing he mentioned last night on greta is really too much spending keeping the spending and getting the tax increases, listen. >> it's a shame in this nation where every developed country in the world knows that our greatest threat is our fiscal solvency that you would have to have leverage points. you would think people would sit down and solve the problem because we know it is our greatest threat. that's not the case here. we have a president who has not laid out a plan. he is obviously a spendaholic. time quickly running out for a deal washington will be working all weekend in hopes of reachi
. we'll see what they have in terms of a fiscal cliff. we have much more as we track this countdown. congressman steny hoyer, tom cole, steve israel all next. first a look at some people behind the scenes at msnbc. i hope you all have a very happy new year. >> happy holidays from "the daily rundown!" >> happy holidays. >> and have a very happy new year. >> happy holidays. >> happy holidays. >> happy new year from "andrea mitchell reports." >> merry christmas. >> merry christmas from "the cycle!" >> happy holidays from the "alex witt" team. >> happy holidays from "up with chris hayes." >> happy holidays! >> merry christmas. happy holidays. >> happy holidays from msnbc. >> happy holidays. >> merry christmas. happy holidays. >> happy holidays from the p.a.s. >> from all of us at msnbc, merry christmas and happy holidays. >> merry christmas. happy holidays. >> merry christmas. happy holidays, everybody. >> hello, team. what a wonderful 2012. i'm looking forward to a fantastic 2013. happy new year. >>> happy new year. the question today. are you ready to go cliff diving? breaking news to
when it comes to the fiscal cliff. one, we'll see an agreement within the next 48 hours in which case middle class taxes will not go up. if that doesn't happen, then democrats in the senate will put a bill on the floor of the senate and republican also have to decide if they're going to block it. >> biden and mcconnell are said to be only about $100,000 apart on where the bush era tax cuts would expire with the republican pushing for $550,000 a year. democrats offering a 450,000. biden stowed have given up his push to raise the estate tax. democrats are trying to delay spending cuts until 2015 and republicans are demanding more spending cuts to offset extended unemployment benefits and farm subsidies. lot of ground to make up. but mcconnell says his decision to reach out to biden was a good one. >> the vice president and i worked together on solutions before and i believe we can again. i want my colleagues to know that we'll keep everyone updated, the consequences of this are too high for the american people to be engaged in a political mess. i'm interested in getting a result here. >
and they have to prepare for the cutting side of the fiscal cliff, not just the taxes. >> o'donnell: and, nancy, if there is no deal, what happens next on monday? >> reporter: essentially we move to plan b, where senates democrat introduce their own plan in the senate that caps the bush tax cuts ap at $250,000 or less, extends long-term unemployment benefits, maybe imposing spending cuts to push off the sequester for six months or a year and we see if the republicans allow a straight up-or-down votes that only requires 50 senators to vote yes or if we have to go to a 60-vote threshold. democrats think they can get the seven republicans they need-- they think they might be able to get up to 10 who have signaled they could go along with something like this. that's not the end of the road. even if it passes, it has to go to the house and that's a tricky road as well. >> o'donnell: let's turn now to our senators who are here. senator durbin, you're the number two senator on the democratic side. how far apart are you with the republicans to reach a deal? >> well, i think there still is a chasm there
with where we started this morning on "washington journal." have you looked at the fiscal cliff and have you made plans or altered your 2013 spending as a business owner on this issue? guest: the answer is not yet. the big factor will be what happens in health care, which kicks in it in 2013 and 2014. you're kind of immobilize until we get a fix. we are moving ahead on the projects we are doing. people are being cautious. we hope this thing will be successfully resolved and that we do not go into a recession next year. host: how would you like to see this issue played out in washington? what is the best economic solution? guest: the best economic solution is to avoid raising taxes. the best we can hope for is that they kick the can down the road for a couple of months. you are not going to resolve entitlements in the next few days. some of these issues will take serious discussion. it will probably be february and not december 31. that is on the horizon. try to do it in a more deliberate fashion. that would be better than doing a quick deal. that is a habit in washington. host: like is it im
in order to avoid going over the fiscal cliff? >> oh, yeah, i would be. you know, i think it is remarkable that right after the election we get this thing that comes right up in our faces that basically outlines in bold relief the differences in the two ideas about how we go forward in this country. it is really excellent timing, and we may have to go over the cliff, if it is forced into it. but this idea that you bring down the cost of medicare by making it unavailable to more people is a terrible idea of mr. boehner's. the idea -- i would be terribly upset, along with many of my friends, if obama compromised too much on what needs to happen that is called the fiscal cliff. >> do you think a prominent third-party would help our country? >> i felt strongly about that when i supported john anderson in 1979. he was -- a large part of anderson's campaign was to sue the state ballot procedure into allowing third parties to have more access to the electoral process. i would like to see a third party available, but that, too, seems like a really tall order. >> what do you think is the appropriat
that comes after that. can't wait for that. >> it will be a circus. >>> the fiscal cliff could still be coming but lawmakers have reached an agreement on at least one issue that could have wound up costing you a lot more at the grocery store. >> falling off the fiscal cliff, means big cuts for the defense department. even if an agreement is reached, the threat still looms large. ♪ ♪ i'm halfway to your heart ♪ you have to let me know ♪ so i don't make my worst mistake ♪ ♪ turn around and let you go [ female announcer ] when sweet and salty come together, the taste is irresistible. made with sweet, smooth peanut butter and salted, roasted peanuts. sweet and salty nut bars by nature valley. nature at its most delicious. . >>> you know there is a lot at stake in the fiscal cliff talks besides the looming tax hikes. fox's peter deucey has a look at the latest in massive cuts that could be coming to the defense department. >> reporter: senator lindsay graham told me this morning his phone rang during dinner saturday night. it was defense secretary leon panetta calling to say h
to avoid some of the tax parts of the fiscal cliff. it would keep tax cuts for the making $250,000 a year or less, extending unemployment benefit and with the clock ticking delay dramatic spending cuts until next year. >> i asked leaders of congress to work toward the package to prevent tax hike on middle class americans protects unemployment surance for 2 million americans. lays the groundwork for work on growth and deficit reduction. that is an achievable goal. >> today's meeting is the first with the president since november 16. sign for republicans that mr. obama has not really been pushing that hard for a deal. >> we need presidential leadership on in the just taxing rich people. >> three words the president did not use. he did not use the word sequester and he didn't say "debt ceiling" either. he focused most of his remarx on preventing taxes from going up. there are also massive spending cuts coming. no idea how they will avert that. he also did not mention the debt ceiling. earlier they wanted lifting the debt ceiling included. now it's clear it's not in the short-term package tha
or not we will be heading off the fiscal cliff. what impact will it have on the 2013 economy? we head live to times square for a special edition of bank on this. this nfl player right there losing his temper after a call by the ref. what set him off? we will tell you. first let's check in with dave briggs to see what is coming up on "fox & friends." i understand this is your last day with us. we are going to miss you. >> i will miss this place indeed. it's my fox family. a big show coming up we, too, are counting down to the fiscal cliff to new year's eve to the nfl post season on my last day as you said and clayton's birthday mind you. an update on hillary clinton's condition in just about 10 minutes join us for "fox & friends" 6-9 eastern time. >> welcome back. it is 52 after the top of the hour. let's span the globe to see what's happening in headlines. hugo chavez is reporting from new complications following his recent cancer surgery there. so far we are hearing those complications are stemming from a respiratory infection and his condition is delicate. next to northern ireland where
to define his second term. he was elected to lead. we can still avoid going over the fiscal cliff if the president and the democrat control senate step forward this week and work with republicans to solve this problem and solve it right now. host: joseph rosenberg, your thoughts on what the senator had to say. guest: well, look, i'm not interested in getting in the middle of the political back and forth. you know, i think the main -- the first idea is similar to an earlier caller about this sort of insufficiency of only taxing the rich. and that's certainly a valid point. i think, again, there's -- you need to draw a distinction between what we're currently talking about the immediate issue of what our tax system will look like next year and then -- and separating that from the longer term issues of tax and spending in which there are, you know, real philosophical differences about the role of government in social insurance in providing health care and how we're going to raise revenue going forward. host: our next caller comes from chris in houston, texas on our line for democrats
. >> mohammed jamjoom, thank you for that. >>> fears of the fiscal cliff are taking some of the holiday cheer out of wall street. cnn's alison kosik is watching the post christmas trading. she joins us next. >>> retailers were hoping shoppers will spend big today. early figures show holiday sales slum slumped to the lowest levels in three years. alison kosik, every time i drive by the mall, the parking lot was full. every time i went in one, there were people everywhere. what is behind the weak sales this year and can post christmas shoppers really turn things around now? >> you make good points, victor. analysts are telling us there are two big factors at work here. hurricane sandy, hit holiday shopping right when it was beginning to rev up in early november. then the worries about the fiscal cliff they took over everybody's pocketbooks. people are really worried their taxes going up. so what do you get? you get holiday sales not doing too hot. holiday sales are up a little less than 1%, winds up being the weakest growth in three years. it is still early. these numbers are still rolling in.
$250,000. >> you're right. we're talking about three things when we talk about the fiscal cliff. one is the bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 that the democrats claim they want to protect for most americans. they all voted against them. they didn't want them in the first place, but now they recognize how terribly important they are, they claim. for two full years, all of 2009 and all of 2010, obama was president. you had a super majority of democrats in the house and the senate. they could have passed making permanent those tax cuts for l all, some americans, people making less than $250,000 a year, they could have done that. they didn't. why do you believe the democrats really want to do something they no longer have the votes to do when they could have done it when they had the votes. that's one part of the fiscal cliff. the other part is the sequester, which saves money. the president wants to end that. and the third part is $1 trillion in obama's taxes. that's the obama care taxes they hid from you because they're all scheduled to come in after he got safely elected. >> let's go b
, we have leon panetta, i'm sure if you have some advice on how to solve the fiscal cliff, i'm sure he'd like to hear that. >> while you are writing your next song, i'd like to present you with your coffee mug. it might give you some inspiration. >> thank you so much. [applause] >> i want to thank the national press club staff including the journalism broadcast center for organizing today's event. and i was wondering if you had one last song you'd like to sing us out on. [applause] >> do you want to sing? >> come on up. >> can she borrow your stool? >> this is my wife kim and here is the song we sing to our twin boys. actually about two years ago, we went in to sing them to sleep with this lullaby and we got the guitar out and sat down on the side of the bed and we were about to play the opening chords and rough fuss looked up at me and said you know dad, we don't have to do this anymore. [laughter] ♪ sonny, sure you're thinking now but the morning is slowly r ising so sober must be spinning round and i still love you would you close your eyes you can close your eyes it's all right o
. >> okay, alexandra steele, thanks very much. >>> from fiscal cliff to crime and punishment, we'll show you our top ten stories of 2012 next. >>> you know me as carl. hey, mom. stationed in germany. shoutout to all my family in trentth, new jers trenton, new jersey. i miss you all, i love you all. if you missed it, it's your fault. i did my part. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. start saving at citi.com/pricerewind. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief with just two pills. >>> here is the mug shot after crapo's arrest in a washington, d.c. suburb. he's a mormon and
whammy, sandy, newtown shootings, fiscal cliff, all these things can combine to depress shoppers' appetite to spend at this point. >> we'll talk a lot more over the next couple of hours where the discounts really came. there's a lot of talk about walmart and gap, and macy's and target. and then what that's going to meet as they try to clear out all this inventory, really starting today, going into the first part of the new year. those things have to get off the shelves. and that's going to affect margins one way or the other. >> let's bring in jackie deangelo, crunching the numbers back at headquarters. >> i'm going to recap what you said a little bit earlier. according to mastercard's spending poll, the few weeks leading up to christmas rose only .7%. a pretty big miss there. to give you perspective, after a drop of 5.5% in 2008, holiday sales have seen a steady rebound since then, including a 2% increase last year. this less than 1% figure, bound to be disappointing. online shopping also showed some muted results. spending polls show web sales were up 8.4% from last year, but t
: thank you both from each side, what is left of the fiscal cliff. harris: protecting children in schools after the tragedy in newtown, connecticut, some teachers are wanting to have guns in school. one attorney general says yes. he is standing by to talk with us next. also, the latest on george w. bush and his condition. the 41st president and why report yeah. mm. some laxatives like dulcolax can cause cramps. but phillips' caplets don't. they have magnesium. for effective relief of occasional constipation. thanks. [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. jon: there is growing support for the federal government to sell off billions of dollars worth of its property to help pay down our ballooning national debt. unused buildings, land and other assets could fetch billions, perhaps even trillions on the open market. what do you think of that idea? william la jeunesse live in los angeles with more on this. william? >> reporter: well, jon, why not have a massive garage sale? that is what families do when they need money. in fact the tax foundation called selling unused assets and
on c-span members of congress on the countdown for the so-called fiscal cliff. senate leaders harry reid and mitch mcconnell speak on the floor about the negotiations. then that is followed by the history of "the new york times." on friday's "washington journal" a look at the countdown to the fiscal cliff. our guest will be damian paletta. then homeownership in the u.s. with randallo tool. later, the discussion of the economy, poverty, and hunger. caroline radcliff. "washington journal" live every morning starting at 7:00 eastern on c-span. >> if we turn away from the needs of others, we align ourselves with those forces that are bringing about this suffering. >> the white house is a pulpit and you ought to take advantage of it. >> obesity in this country is nothing short of a public health crisis. >> i think i have little antennas that went up and told me when somebody had their own agenda. >> there is so much influence in that office and it is shame to waste it. >> they serve on a window on the past with what is going on with american women. >> sh she is the only one they can trus
is about taxes, but the talks should be about what we want to talk about today, the medicare fiscal cliff, the looming bankruptcy. there are millions of americans who are counting the days until they are eligible for medicare. it would be a tragedy if when they get to that day they become eligible, there's not enough money to pay the bills. according to the trustees, that day is coming soon, and 11 2024. into a doz 24 the president needs to do a good job in letting people know about the medicare fiscal cliff. senator corker has done some very good work over the last several months in a variety of areas in fiscal matters. a proposal of his that has attracted my support which he will describe is a proposal to help make the medicare program solvent by reducing the growth of out of control spending by nearly $1 trillion in exchange for the expected request from the president for a $1 trillion increase in the debt limit. taking these two provisions together over the next few weeks will provide certainty for the economy, will be the linchpin for a budget agreement that will get the economy goin
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